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Ahahahaha there are some hard feelings, dude.

Robin didn't really think anything about Yomiel when they first woke up in this clusterfuck, but when push came to shove and the real murdergame began, they became enemies and Robin isn't sure how to feel about that.

She does know that she doesn't like Yomiel that much, at all really. He's pretty cruel, and generally seems to embody the whole "ends justify the means" ideal that was forced onto Robin's education back home. By the end of the game, she was pretty sure that he was doing this for no one but himself, and didn't care if anyone died, including himself. He also hit quite a few nerves during the last trial.

Basically, he's not in her good books. BUT, she doesn't really think he's a total bad guy? If that makes sense. Like I said, he's using the whole "ends justify the means" motive, which Robin sees reason in, but still dislikes. It does still suck a little that he's already been killed though, and by someone that looked like Fullbright.

He would've made a killer Communist though. A lot better than her.

Edited 2014-11-28 21:39 (UTC)

They didn't spend much time together, but Robin thought Phi was pretty cool. She found the whole, "not a man" thing to be pretty funny, and she wished she'd actually asked more about the strange watch on her wrist.

You were one of the nice ones, Phi. Good for you.

Because Yomiel is a sucker for punishment.

Okay! Here I gooooooooo

Somehow, for whatever reason, Robin and Kimbley bonded on the first day. He let her sleep in his room, along with Anthy, which was a nice thing to do, since Robin would have probably been stuck otherwise. And then, he helped her out a bit when the first person wound up dead.

And then people kept dying, and Robin did not feel good about being a Communist at all, but she was being forced to, so, yeah. And then it was revealed that he was an important citizen, so they had to kill him, which Robin was against. But, it wasn't her call, so it happened and Robin was pretty sad.

Robin hated that she helped kill someone that had been really nice to her, and felt horrible about it up until they voted for reactivation. Of course, Yomiel had to be a jerk and insinuate that she wanted to do it before hand.

She'd be very happy to see him when he's alive again. She'll even let him punch her in the face.

HILARIOUSLY, Yomiel was probably the last of the major instigators on the Citizen side to come around to thinking Robin was a likely Communist. Like, Paul and Kimbley were on her ass pretty quick, and Knightley and Simon were like "sounds legit" about it, and then there's Yomiel way back at the starting line like "that kid's just dumb and following herd mentality". Like, his pool of potential suspects shrunk enough for him to investigate her, but the reason he investigated her and not someone else was because she was the one he was most unsure of.

I think part of it was that he just really didn't want to believe she could be a Communist. He's a jerk and an asshole, sure, but unlike most of the Citizen's side big players, he's not a straight-up misanthrope. I won't say he had the most flattering view of her, but he figured she at least meant well. And why wouldn't he? She gave him a hand when he was freaking out over Seryu's body, she was one of the people dragging him off Clay, etc., etc. Though by the end of Day 3, even he kind of had to admit that she wasn't really reacting like he would expect her to. (Day 3 was a major turning point for him in general, and by the end of it, he wasn't really inclined to give anyone much in the way of slack anymore. Killing Anthy, even as indirectly as he did, made him backslide baaaaaad.) Even so, even as he put her name in, he was still half-sure it was going to come back innocent.

AND THEN IT DIDN'T. He had this perfect plan in mind where he'd gun for Bobby and leave Robin for later, but he was just SO PISSED OFF about the stuff she said about Kimbley and at himself for believing it, that when she tried to talk to him he just... blew the hell up right in her face. And then she tried to deny it and throw the suspicion back on him and that just pissed him off even WORSE. Moreso the denial than the counter-accusation, to be honest; accountability is a pretty big thing with Yomiel. His feelings towards her on the last day can mostly be summed up with "SHUT UP AND GO AWAY, I DON'T WANT TO DEAL WITH YOU RIGHT NOW."

His non-reaction to her true gender reveal was probably something like... 60% "Yeah sure why not I was wrong about everything else about ~~him~~ her" and 40% "I thought there was something funny about that brace!" That thing was honestly probably bothering him more than her behavior was....

Also Robin was the only person to survive being investigated by him CONGRATULATIONS, ROBIN.

Surprisingly, her reactions to the people that turned up dead each day were pretty damn genuine. It's one thing to vote for someone and have them disappear in a burst of fire, but another to see them lying there, dead because of you. She had never killed anyone before, even indirectly like they did here.

I love how the last trial basically turned into a mess of "Who can put more suspicion on who". Robin had actually composed a plan that may have worked if it hadn't been useless in the long run. She would have put suspicion on Yomiel, and by extension, probably put suspicion on herself. That way, either her or Yomiel would have likely died if they hadn't gone after Bobby instead. Then they would have gotten the inhibitor while the communists could easily take out the loyalty officer.

It's funny how things work out.

SUP PAL.

Yomiel's first impression of Simon was something like "this guy hovering around Knightley looks like a total weenie, I could probably give that poor guy a heart attack just by jumping at him and going 'boo' really loudly." So for the first could of days, Simon was basically just "Knightley's hanger-on" to him.

He knew they were friends, though, so when the Indoctrinator acted first night, they were the first people he suspected. ~~Which in no way stopped him from asking Knightley for a strategy meeting, good planning, Yomiel.~~ And then during the trial that day, Simon was like "Well, we talked about that and decided it would be better to wait..." so Yomiel was like "OK ain't nobody dumb enough to admit something like that if they were actually the ones who converted, especially not a scaredy-cat like that, and I'm sure this guy's no idiot because Knightley wouldn't tolerate him hanging around if he was so... they're probably clear."

So after that, he didn't have any particularly strong feelings about Simon. Seemed like a pretty alright guy but probably not a super reliable one, probably not going to be any sort of major mover or shaker in this game, I hope he and Knightley get out of this alright, that sort of vaguely positive feeling. And then Simon told him he was the troubleshooter, and when he was like "Yeah I haven't told Knightley I'm using the two of you as insurance against each other" Yomiel was like "...I have severely underestimated this guy's intelligence." REALLY GLAD SIMON WAS ON HIS SIDE, but yeah wow not expecting that in the least.

ALSO REALLY UNEXPECTED: Simon so readily agreeing to the fake Troubleshooter plan! That conversation was about when Yomiel realized that he was completely wrong about this guy and needed to throw out all his previous misconceptions and start over. Not even fuckin' mad about being so thoroughly fooled, just honestly kind of impressed. Really impressed, actually. That was basically when Yomiel started earnestly liking Simon, was when he realized Simon's smarter than he is.

Aaaaalso when he realized that oh Simon is probably not the only stealth sketchy asshole here, I should stop cutting Robin and Fulbright so much slack and start assuming we're just all sketchy assholes here. So congrats, Simon, between that and providing him the means to "personally" murder Anthy, you're pretty much singlehandedly responsible for Yomiel's character development going off the rails as badly as it did.

Even without Knightley threatening to break his arms, though, Yomiel really did want to protect Simon. That's why he gave Simon that note and wrote his letter to leave everything up to Simon to explain, because he trusted Simon's judgement more than his own. So it SURE DID FUCK HIM UP when Simon mentioned that Bobby might actually have reason to scan him, god, if he'd mentioned that earlier, Yomiel would've called the entire damn plan off, you go publicly do the Troubleshooter thing, Simon, Yomiel will figure out some way to fend for himself it'll be fiiiiiiine. But that's not how it went and Yomiel totally spent all of Day 4 kicking himself for getting Simon killed.

He still feels awkward about it in DART, but Simon doesn't seem mad about it, so he guesses it's okay???

If you... really want to know.

I most certainly do!

He's pretty sure he knows already, but go ahead and surprise him.

Sure why not. Besides the usual confused staring and not knowing how to use our words.

Of course I want to know ~~because he sure as shit couldn't figure it out in-game~~

Yomiel, Yomiel, Yomiel. What the hell does he do with you? They only had one conversation, where Greed refused to say anything of worth because while he did believe Yomiel was the loyalty officer, he also isn't the sort of person to ever ask for help.

That being said, it's not very often you find another dead person who feels/is completely isolated from the world so had Greed not died immediately, he would have bonded with Yomiel pretty damn quick. As it is, he felt pretty guilty because he pointed out his suspects, told Yomiel not to trust the Defense Officer, and then died. SORRY ABOUT THAT.

He didn't mean to set Yomiel on the warpath there but it was amusing as hell that he actually accomplished this, even if deadland was equally split between "Yomiel yes" and "Yomiel no." Greed would apologize for being paranoid and useless if he could, since meeting someone who understands the problems the homunculi have never happens, and he really squandered that opportunity.

You're his friend, Kimbley.

That's what it comes down to. It was more involved than Kimbley being an ally or a recruit. Some of the chimera definitely were (~~the ones not named in the show~~) but Kimbley was in that stupidly special category of someone Greed honestly trusted. Greed and Kimbley both spent an extended period of time completely isolated, and since the chimera had each other Greed sort of naturally gravitated towards him because he's a lonely idiot.

...so when Kimbley betrayed him obviously this wasn't something Greed saw coming at all because he thought they were cool. He defaulted to trying to be cool with Kimbley at first because Kimbley was the only person he recognized, and then it became this confusing mess of "he was my friend but then he stabbed me in the back, but I still like him anyway" so there we go.

Greed has no idea how to classify it and he'd do his best to avoid ever trusting Kimbley completely again, but at the same time he does understand it was nothing personal? Hhe has no idea what to do with it. Emotions are confusing and messy.

It was clear from day 1 (not 0, 1) that they would never see fully eye to eye. Well, for her, with anyone, but you get the idea.

But you were a man with a vision and good ideas - half the reason she'd voted on the first day was that she thought he'd been right about there not being a point to abstain. Either take one out of 15 or one out of 5, or do nothing, it was obvious what the right choice was.

And, for that matter, it gave her that other idea, although she didn't realize until later that she'd picked a terrible person for the "third option".

She respects him, and hopes he never finds out about antimatter.

BASICALLY.

OK no it's actually a lot more complicated than that.

Yomiel's first impression of Kimbley was basically "That guy's an asshole. ...Probably not a Communist, but definitely an asshole." Which is not necessarily as bad of an impression as it might seem? Yomiel doesn't exactly have room to criticize people for being assholes.... But still, he was not exactly first in line for getting all buddy-buddy with Kimbley.

And Greed didn't help that at all when Yomiel told him his role and he was like "I bet Kimbley's a Communist and even if he isn't, he's a backstabbing asshole so don't trust him." And Yomiel really did intend to follow that advice! But then they got into the trial and Kimbley just kind of laughed off everything Yomiel tossed at him and was basically like "hey Greed trusted you so I'll trust his judgement and follow your lead" and Yomiel just. Completely wasn't expecting that. Nothing Kimbley did at the trial was what Yomiel was expecting, really. (Including hitting on him. What was that, Kimbley, what was that.) Kimbley consistently had Yomiel's back in that trial and Yomiel's pretty used to people not having his back by this point, so... I wouldn't say he was touched exactly, because you're still an asshole, Kimbley, you're just. His kind of asshole.

And then Rin declared that Kimbley was next up on the Communist's chopping block and Yomiel was a little mad that apparently he wasn't even considered enough of a threat to even get scanned, but mostly he was scared that he was just starting to warm up to this guy and he was already doomed like WASN'T LOSING GREED ENOUGH OF A KICK TO THE PANTS? ~~Of course not; apparently Yomiel's friendship is literal poison.~~

So he was really worried about Kimbley all night and really hoping Rin's prediction would be wrong and then NOPE Kimbley died and he was the Defense Officer and Yomiel felt like the biggest heel for all the shit he said about the Defense Officer to him. Kind of like the biggest heel in general for even doubting him enough to investigate him in the first place, really. Like, finding out that Kimbley was the Defense Officer probably gave him a few more ticks in the positive feelings category than he really deserved, because Yomiel really is just kind of overly sentimental like that.

In case, y'know. The whole "talking to the corpse" thing didn't make that one clear.

'SUP

Yay, I helped :3c

Simon should have tried to engineer Fulbright's death from the beginning, but he sat on his worries about the guy because he was avoiding an awkward conversation with Horace, and consequently told himself he could ride it out until people's suspicions about Fulbright came to fruition. So he blames himself for being weak enough to feel feelings, and Knightley for making him feel those feelings, and in the face of that barely blames Yomiel for his death at all. Actually the most IC thing probably would have been to Troubleshoot Fulbright right away, long before anybody even thought he might have been Communist, but I'm not that much of an asshole OOCly.

Greeeeeeeeeeeeeed.

That first conversation on Day 0, of course, Yomiel came to the conclusion that Greed was a ghost just like him. And that meant a lot to him! He's never met another ghost (he's aware that Lynne has one following her around, but they're working at odds with his goals so they are clearly not friend material. Ha. Haha. Hahaha.), so the possibility of someone who knows how fucking awful it is to be dead was really exciting and he was immediately attached to Greed baaaaaad.

So that first night, he waffled a lot on who to investigate, but ultimately he picked Greed because he just really needed to know if he could trust Greed or not, more than anybody else. And he could! And that was a huge relief. God only knows what he would've done if Greed showed up as a Communist, but it probably would've been incredibly stupid. Because Yomiel.

He wasn't really planning on telling Greed his role and result, though. He wasn't really planning much at all that first day, just kind of a directionless "yeah I guess I'll try to win this thing since I ended up with an important role and am generally opposed to us all getting slaughtered on principle. (Also killing is bad and wrong and people who do it shouldn't get away with it NOT THAT I'M TALKING ABOUT MYSELF HERE OR ANYTHING.)" And then after the trial people were like "dude, you gonna die" and he was like "shit, yeah, probably" so it was like yeah better tell Greed he's Officially Cleared JUST IN CASE.

He thought about directly talking about the whole dead thing, too, but GOD that's an awkward conversation to start and WHAT IF HE'S WRONG or WHAT IF TALKING ABOUT IT PISSES GREED OFF OR SOMETHING it's just safer to sit down and shut up and not risk rocking the boat or anything yeah that's fine kind of want to pretend those last ten years never happened anyway. First non-cat friend he made in ten years, he might've been overthinking things ~~a little~~ a lot.

And then he didn't die but Greed did. And that fucked him up. He was confused that Greed was dead and he wasn't, and hurt that Greed hadn't told him his role when he'd told Greed his own considerably more dangerous one, and mad the Communists had taken his one trustworthy clear from him on TOP of the other positive feelings he had about Greed, and PISSED AS ALL HELL that their intended target didn't even seem to give a shit, and just. He was not in a good place. If he hadn't been, aheh, otherwise occupied for most of the morning and missed it, his reaction to the message accusing Phi probably would've just been "I didn't write that, so we can ignore it. (P.S. Yes, I'm implying I'm the Loyalty Officer.)" THANKFULLY HE'D CALMED DOWN SOME BY THE TIME HE ACTUALLY HEARD ABOUT IT AT THE TRIAL, but yeah. Congratulations, Greed, you really won the friend lottery on that one.

He still thought about Greed sometimes the next couple of days, too. Mostly like, "I really should've said something about the dead thing, even if I was wrong I might've been able to get it off my chest," and "jesus christ, 300 years old, how the fuck was he not a gibbering mess, I'd completely lost my shit after 10 years, I can't even fucking imagine literally 30 times that," and just. General seething bitter hatred in Clay's direction. Because GOD was that not fair, if the Communists had targeted Greed for some reason that would be one thing, but no it was a series of unfortunate coincidences completely outside Greed's control and that just kind of ground his gears extra hard. NOT SUBCONSCIOUSLY FAMILIAR OR ANYTHING.

While Kimbley was alive it was like, "wow, what an asshole, calm the hell down." He didn't have any inkling that Kimbley might have a role at that time, and was kinda pissed to find out he did! How dare someone who ought to be useful to me go and get himself killed for no reason whatsoever.

After he died, Keyes was the asshole who needed to calm the hell down, and Kimbley became the guy he could say whatever he wanted to and not have to deal with awkwardness or misplaced sympathy or anything else but just an echo chamber of assholery. ...Assholism? Assholics? You know what I mean.

So I guess what I'm saying here is, he thinks Kimbley is an asshole.

...but where is the lie though

Oh and in DART I'd say he's probably the one Simon has warmed up to the least, but also the one he estimates will be the most useful, or rather the least of a liability

OKAY since you for some reason are a glutton for punishment, here we go!

Kimbley actually was pretty inclined to like Robin from the start, because she was a little angry thing and he was also a little angry thing, and he was feeling really weird already because he hates being locked in. He spent ten years alone, locked in a 10'x7' box waiting to die, so he doesn't take kindly to people shoving him somewhere and not letting him leave; he has a tendency in canon to kill people on his own side if they try to shut him in anywhere. So he was already feeling freaked out and messed up and didn't want anyone to know about it, and spending time around Greed...helped a little in that Greed kind of kept him walking around and talked to him enough to calm him down and generally didn't let him just sit there being a basket case, but at the same time Kimbley wasn't too sure how he felt about Greed at the moment so he didn't want to spend all his time with him.

And then he found Robin, and he definitely appreciated the fact that she was being all RARGH about everything, and then they started talking and...not even gonna lie all the yelling about sincerity and honesty and shit really kind of amused him? Like he could already see that the situation was a deathtrap, so her HOPE!!! was just kind of inspiring a lot of "...oh, honey, you got a big storm coming." But while he admittedly found that hilarious as fuck, he's always had a thing for charismatic people - he tends to be drawn toward the people who are loud and act out and generally make you notice them, and she definitely did that, and so he was pretty content to just kind of see what she did. If she broke all over it'd amuse him (because he's an asshole who likes seeing idealistic people break), and if she didn't that had potential to be really interesting.

So he was pretty interested in her from the start, which is a good way to go toward getting him to like someone; he was a little wigged out that she came to ask him if she could stay in his room that first night, but at the same time he was grateful for it and if he's honest that's why he left the door open – he was sort of hoping someone would come wandering in eventually, he just had entirely too much pride to ask. So he was glad she and Anthy were staying with him, because it was good to know someone else was there and to be able to hear them moving around and stuff before bed.

She actually started striking him weird somewhere around the end of the first trial, though; he wasn't sure why she voted despite the fact that an Abstain option was available, and while she seemed shocked, she didn't seem as messed up over Moge-ko dying as she did Seryu – and while that could have been explained by the fact that Moge-ko was an asshole, it sort of bothered him for some reason he couldn't articulate very well. He didn't want to try to say anything or ask her about it, though, because honestly she was one of the few people who was decent to him without calling him an asshole 24/7? Which he totally deserved because he's an asshole, but at the same time it's sort of nice to have someone just treat you like a person once in a while, and she was good at doing that. She also told him her secret early on, which...once he got over the OKAY SUDDENLY TITS realization, went a long way toward getting him to give a fuck about her because apparently she'd been keeping that secret for a damn long time and yet she trusted him enough to say something about it to him. So he was fine with keeping her around, and he started to like her a lot more than he expected to which was...confusing, aaaaaaand then the second trial happened and everything went to shit.

He kept her out of his room that night so she wouldn't wake up to find him gone when he'd been in the room with her that night before; he was pissed at himself for doing that after the fact, because being alone and knowing he was going to die soon like that fucked him up really badly in ways that he didn't expect it to. So he sort of hated himself for having done that to himself, but at the same time he didn't really...regret having done it in the first place, if that makes sense? It did what he'd intended it to do and that was what mattered – she was still upset when he died, but at least she didn't wake up in his room. He also didn't like seeing Robin cry when Yomiel started in on her and said she wanted Kimbley dead; he actually had to leave the room while that was going on. It would have been a lot easier if she'd just said that he'd been killed because he had a role, or if she'd tried to put on a brave face and sassed Yomiel about it, or...it even would have been easier if she'd been lying the whole time and actually did want him dead; he didn't know what to do with the fact that she was apparently fucked up over it.

He also told Greed to only come get him if Fulbright burned, because he figured it was either going to be Fulbright or Robin and he didn't really want to see it or hear about it if it was Robin.

...Greed also started teasing Kimbley at one point about acting like an older brother to her, which annoyed him because he couldn't really deny it, either – the whole thing made him feel all weird and protective and he generally doesn't get like that toward people, so it was just sort of this giant cluster of what the fuck is this even.

He actually doesn't hate her for being a Communist because his thoughts were pretty much that you do what you have to do; he also doesn't care if he lives or dies and in situations like that he starts getting weird and deathseeker-ish, so he was actually okay with the fact that he ended up dead at all – he could have done without the night before and ahahahaha wow he is never doing a decent thing for anyone ever again, but at the same time there aren't any...genuine hard feelings? He's mad at her, yeah, because he's kind of mad at everyone, but it'll pass eventually.

(Also he sort of encouraged Paul to go after her later and vented to Knightley about his suspicions toward both Robin and Fulbright, which he will admit felt pretty good, and ngl he was feeling vindicated as hell about the fact that he was right about both of them, so uh.)

And this was a lot of tl;dr to express the basic sentiment of IDK, but it's essentially the pseudo-sibling equivalent of a Facebook "It's Complicated."

Edited 2014-12-02 17:06 (UTC)

Look she feels pretty bad about everything that went down, and about having to vote to kill people and everything. I mean, mostly. She was totally on board for taking out Moge-ko.

Curly would have tried to get to know Phi better I think, if they were on the same team. She couldn't let herself make too many friends amongst the citizens or she'd never be able to do her job, and missing out like that makes her sad.

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